For those of you unfamiliar with the Soviet State of Illinois, I lived there a LONG TIME. MOST of that time I was denied even the basic right to be armed for my. own defense. Certainly ownership of such dastardly and deadly things as cans or SBR’s was strictly proscribed. After all, we are too incompetent and dangerous to be trusted with such possible weapons of mass destruction.
Well, all that’s changed now. I live in Texas, and everyone shoots there. Everyone carries. LOTS of cans!!
So yesterday, in celebration of my kidney failure appearing to finally improve, I ordered a Banish 9mm from Spencer Central. It ought to be quiet. But my experience in that arena has been a bit “spotty”. There does not seem to be a lot of serious data. out there, especially on pistol cans. Other than PEW Science, I dont even know of any other source of serious, unbiased evaluation.
Perhaps (aside from Belt-Fed, who appears to have multiples of every known NFA item) there are others here who like me are interested but not knowledgeable about Suppressors, dsta sources and evaluations, etc.
So I am putting up this post to act as a common place to perhaps exchange info, experience, report on performance, etc.
Don’t get me wrong I like suppressors and silencers, but if i’m going to pay good money on something like that, I don’t want to be paying a $200 tax on top of what $1000 and normal sales tax? Sorry but that’s going into too much taxation territory in my book. Anything above normal sales tax is too much.
Taxation is imply a fact of life. It hasn’t changed since 1934. As taxes go, it isn’t too bad.
I hear rumours that they may do away with the tax stamp. If they did that on just the cans and SBR’s, it would be a big boon. So far my cans have run about $800-1100/can, including tax stamp. For a bit here there were deals on “tax stamp included” but I think those have gone away.
I view the overall cost kind of like good glass. You can’t spend the day on a lousy scope - your eyes hurt. So you buy Leupold, Votex, Nightforce because they are all “all day scopes”. My Leupold cost me as much as my. Winchester Mod 70 in 300 WinMag. Samey-samey the can (CAT ODT).
Not sure what you’re driving at. A modern suppressor is a 3D printing maze to decrease the pressure wave and so kill the sound. That’s a long way from a stack of washers. Much more complex to manufacfure
Multi sized suppressors is the way to go, can use for different calibers, may need to swap end cones and barrel mounts. most comes with two end caps. silencerCo Hybrid 46M
Hmm, check out some other videos and test, seems they do ok for a while work for 22lr for thousands of rounds but larger calibers burn them up quickly as it is cellulose media . And the worst is it blocks your optics.
I think you and I are speaking at somewhat of cross purposes.
By 3D printed, I am referring to cans such as Huxwrx TI 556. These are metal cans but their production requires specialised equipment such that they can reproduce the intricate passageways for the gas to allow it to slow, etc. These are not “plastic 3D”, as some firearms are from the 80% group.
I’m no engineer, but my sense has long been that good fit between barrel and can are important for longevity AND performance. I suppose the older washer-style cans don’t matter as much, but I would think modern cans need tighter clearances. But I’m pretty new to cans.
I get what you’re saying, but I actually have decent 3d Printers and there’s also 3d printed cans that you can make now, they’re not perfect and break easily, but they can be printed easily by anyone.
My friend from back in IL decided he wanted a full-auto AR, which is prohibited to us trolls by state law. He ended up going the only legal way in IL - he got an FFL with SOT. That allowed him to manufacture full-auto AR’s and own SBR’s & cans. There are restrictions. You cannot. SELL to anyone but another SOT holder or an agency. You may not OWN any auto weapon unless it fits within the GCA 68 (or 86 - can’t remember which). You are not, however, bound by the usual state restrictions on firearm ownership.
Not sure there still is the Class 3 distinction. OUT it was a class for ownership of full auto weapons, but I think they’ve rearranged those.
Ah SOT’s can ONLY Sell to Government Local, State, and Federal, and all facets of Law Enforcement only. Which i think is BS. But thank the NFA and the Hughes on FOPA for that. However many of you were old enough in 86 to have spoken out against the government didn’t seem to care so thanks for that. I was 3 at the time so i don’t have a leg in that.
