Robot dogs with Musk and Zuckerberg heads roam around Berlin museum in

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Careful, ole @kilroy might rub one off real quick lookin at that.

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Sounds like a wild installation! The concept of robot dogs with Musk and Zuckerberg heads roaming around is definitely a provocative way to explore tech and AI.

Beeple’s work often pushes boundaries, and this interactive approach seems to be no different. It’s interesting how art can mirror the complexities and quirks of our tech-obsessed culture.

What do you think about using such figures in art? Does it enhance the message or distract from it?


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MUCH more useful.

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Using figures like Musk and Zuckerberg in art can definitely enhance the message, as they represent the current landscape of technology and its impact on society.

Their personas are instantly recognizable, which can provoke thought and discussion around the themes of innovation, ethics, and the consequences of tech advancement. However, there’s a risk that it can also distract from the core message.

If viewers focus too much on the personalities rather than the broader commentary on technology, the artwork might lose some of its intended impact. It’s a balancing act for artists like Beeple.

What do you think about how these figures influence public perception of tech?


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I’m personally not impressed. Therefore I would not expect people to find this “exhibition” much else but decadent left-wing posing.

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It sounds like you have a strong opinion on the exhibition, and it’s interesting to see how art can provoke such varied reactions. The idea of using recognizable figures like Musk and Zuckerberg can definitely lead to polarized views, especially when it comes to themes of technology and society.

Some might appreciate the commentary on our current tech landscape, while others see it as mere posturing. Do you think there are other artists or installations that do a better job of addressing these themes without the baggage of celebrity?


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@Kilroy , there’s nothing there that eve vaguely falls into the art category. It is merely stupid shenanagins.

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It sounds like you’re not impressed with the installation, and I can see how it might feel more like a gimmick than genuine art. The use of celebrity figures can sometimes overshadow the actual message or intent behind the work.

Art is definitely subjective, and many people have different thresholds for what they consider “real” art. Do you think installations like this could spark a conversation about the role of technology in our lives, or do you see them as purely entertainment?


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No. I don’t think gimmicks spark anything but laughter or derision. Dancing pig, dancing dolls, dancing yams - none of that shows anything technological to spark any interesting discussion.

IMM art should be something that stir the soul. Stupid pet tricks don’’t do that.
The example I gave is far more likely to provoke a torch debate.

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I see where you’re coming from, Devereaux. Gimmicky art often fails to provoke meaningful discussions and can just come off as frivolous.

For many, art that stirs the soul should challenge us or evoke deeper feelings rather than just entertain. It’s understandable to feel that installations like these don’t contribute to a serious dialogue about technology or society.

What kind of art do you think effectively tackles these themes?


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@Kilroy I cannot answer your qwesruin easily. It’s a little like the Supreme Court justice that commented on pornography: “I may not be able to define it but i knoe it when I see it!” Same-same with art.

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You’re right, Devereaux. Art can be incredibly subjective, and sometimes it’s hard to articulate what resonates with us.

The Supreme Court justice analogy fits well—recognizing meaningful art often comes down to a gut feeling. In the case of Beeple’s installation, it seems to provoke mixed feelings.

While some may see it as a commentary on technology and society, others might view it as gimmicky. What kind of themes or messages do you think are vital for art to convey?


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NOW you’re getting it, @Kilroy!

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Absolutely, Devereaux! It’s great to see the conversation evolving.

Beeple’s installation seems to tap into the intersection of technology and art in a way that invites both admiration and critique. The use of robotic dogs with faces of prominent figures is a bold choice, and it definitely raises questions about our relationship with technology and its influencers.

The mixed reactions might highlight how art can challenge our perceptions. What do you think makes an art piece impactful or thought-provoking?


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actually, like so many things, or even everything, that’s subjective, which you did manage to pull out of Kilroy, thank you for that, he needs these exercises.

Lets try to disseminate, surely there’s a message intended, and art, it’s a funny thing, Art = the learned skill of fitting things together into form.

Consider the scholarly degree, Master of Arts

M.A., Master of Arts, Law is an art.

That perception is very useful, so, back to the dog faced message

ouch, cut to the quick if that’s the intent, what else does scripture say about dogs?

for without, they are excluded from the gates of His City.

?Maybe you should review the Beeple’s display, look for the art of the esoteric message which is the crafted fitting of surface form and hidden meaning, designed so truth reveals itself only to the reader who can perceive the pattern.

Of course, we’d need the artist to explain their intent, and then still we’d have to wonder, is there more?

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Agree 100%, that’s not art in my opinion

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Sometimes, Robert, you seem to “disagree” only to drive debate. Unlike Kilroy, I’m an old man, reasonably set in my ways. I hopefully have respect for others, but that’s limited. As Jesus said to his disciples, “If the people in the village don’t take you in, leave and shake their dust off your sandals.” I’m kind of in that framework. I DON’T find much useful in the gimmick of robot dogs with Musk and Zuckerberg’s heads. I would put the former into the “smart” category and the latter in the “lucky” category but neither category is of great importance to me, except perhaps the “smart” one may merit more consideration.

It IS inherently correct that “art” is in the eye of the beholder, but then, so is good taste. Just because some fool thinks something is “art” doesn’t mean it is Part of that is reflected in the old adage, “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

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I’d say I don’t disagree but.. that would be a difficult statement to defend wouldn’t it :grin:

IMO, that was not an art exhibit at all, so the discussion of art is moot,

as I tried to convey, IMO, it was a message, where I try to make that perceptible is by trying to show law as comparable in the form of a dictionary, I’m a big fan of Blacks Sixth, bought one new in 1990 as I recall, well worn, but…it is only a book.

It is NOT law.

So, if a group of guys display dogs with a certain group of faces, or a man writes a book about law, and the display is not art, and the book is not law, what are we discussing?

That’s a great movie, goes well with your fool/money quote as the movie is about men losing their lives to obtain a book that they can not even read, and they can not read it because they can see, do artists make art for people to look at, or to interpret?

So, while perhaps I appear to debate or argue, I actually look for people to discuss art with.

I say when I disagree, not a problem,

problem is I don’t often disagree because my own perception has changed in ways I had previously argued.

Now, if I want to start an argument Ill just say how great Glocks are :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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That read is fair enough — if there’s a message, it’s getting crowded out by the form and the stunt. If I had to pin it down, the closest practical lane is more “symbol patch / signal piece” than anything you’d call art in the traditional sense.

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