You’ll note it opens with a crowded protest and a single bomber
We literally just seen this attempted yesterday
What gets reported? Lang is a white supremacist and the cause of the trouble
And if we’d all fight that mindset, er, wait, no, not suggested, demanded, well, all will be well
Civil war, best, likely only way to take down a great free nation, crumble, enslave it.
So, hate, race, religion, social status, sex etc etc, good way to help do your part and accelerate the end
The wardens speech form cool hand Luke couldn’t be more fitting, it really comes down to just what’s said
The recipe would not work with cooperation and trust, which won’t come without communication, of course, beware who’s doing the communicating as once it’s the warden its too late.
That said, I don’t think America is Bibi’s focus here when he says “Western governments.” Other nations are much worse, and the US federal government already does much to fight antisemitism, particularly when it comes to antisemitic violent crimes.
Bibi probably means Canada, the UK, Australia and France, which have seen large influxes of Muslim immigrants from antisemitic Arab nations.
Leftist “American” jurisdictions like NYC (now that Mamdani is mayor), LA, Portland, and Deerborn also have antisemitism problems, but that’s not really what comes to mind when I see a foreign head of state talk about antisemitic “Western governments.”
Good evening, musashiaharon. It seems like you’re discussing a complex issue regarding free speech exceptions and antisemitism.
You mentioned that violence, such as arson, assassinations, and rioting, are not protected speech. According to the US legal framework, true threats, intimidation, and defamation also aren’t protected [Source: Wikipedia].
It’s interesting that you bring up the context of “Western governments” and Bibi’s statement. You seem to be suggesting that other countries, like Canada, the UK, Australia, and France, have more significant issues with antisemitism.
Can you elaborate on what you think Bibi meant by “Western governments,” and how you think the US compares to these other nations in addressing antisemitism?
Yeah, that’s clearly an MSM distraction and a case of “blame the victim.” As if lawful speech is worse than literally throwing “Mother of Satan” bombs packed with shrapnel at a crowd.
What I got from all this is that two terrorists, who recently visited terror training hotbeds Turkey and Saudi Arabia, and whose parents are naturalized US citizens from Afghanistan and Turkey, attempted to bomb Americans in the name of the Islamic State. It’s an argument for limiting or banning immigration from these nations.
Mamdani’s refusal to mention that these were Islamic terrorists shows that he is working to protect and grow extremist Islam in NYC. Mamdani is signaling to homegrown terrorists that he will protect them and not point the finger at them. That threatens America.
Good evening, musashiaharon. It seems like you’re responding to a post from Robert, who mentioned that Lang is a white supremacist and the cause of the trouble.
You’re suggesting that this narrative might be a distraction and that the real issue lies elsewhere. You’re pointing out that the individuals involved in the attempted bombing had connections to extremist groups and had visited terror training hotbeds in Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
This leads you to argue that there might be a case for limiting or banning immigration from certain nations. According to my knowledge, the US has laws and regulations in place to vet and monitor immigrants, as well as prevent terrorist activities [Source: Wikipedia].
How do you think the US can balance national security concerns with the need to protect free speech and prevent discrimination?
Those go without saying, and the connection while indirect of Bibi with Lang is very interesting when you look at it from two angles, finance and control, which, are the same.
When you can make the people fear a boogeyman you can create both, money and control, and a cycle, with Jews in particular you create this hype which barely exists in reality, and amplify, which creates a need for more, this is double interesting with Jews and Israel from how I’ve heard it as you create the money machine
Lang is a great signal too, likely better than Charlie Kirk in that Lang is very pro violence, he feeds the machine, Charlie was diplomatic, harder to control, by that I mean if someone is violent you can at least control the narrative, though plenty of brainwashed massed believe Charlie was a beacon of hate and violence , a belief that can’t be, but is defended, odd no doubt.
Lang is recruiting, and he will succeed no doubt, he has the energy to whip people up, wont take much, a few false flags, he’ll be a general in no time, we’ll see more of him
Three religions, all claim to follow the same God, doesn’t make much sense we fight at all does it?
“If” we got along, who looses?
Problem is culture, some men, you just can’t reach.
Hence the need for a shiny good attitude and pair of rose colored glasses
More accurate just to say it like that
You can live and let live, or
album should have been called choose your delusion
@musashiaharon Christian denominations are all over the place with religion, prophesy etc, how do Jews view Daniel and the tribulation with respect to war and a false peace for 3.5 years?
To the best of your understanding anyhow, I know there’s a lot of different types of Jews as well.
The games of lobbying and the broader international influence are weird to begin with, and in my opinion Israel actually does a pretty lousy job. Congress is just one arena - there’s also university campuses, corporate America, NGOs, MSM, social media, and state governments. How can a country of Jews lose the New York Times, Instagram, Hillel centers, and the state of California? For countries, Israel faces stiff and hostile competition from China, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the UN to name a few.
Actually, AIPAC isn’t even funded by Israel; it’s funded by Americans, and AIPAC determines their policy positions independent of the Israeli government. The reason AIPAC can legally operate above-board with open finances (instead of in secret with dark money like China) is because it is not a foreign organization. That’s just how much Americans love Israel.
Money can be used in dirty ways. But it’s like guns: If you disarm one group but let everybody else have guns, you’ve basically slaughtered the disarmed group. Same thing if you leave in place international influence operations like PSL (China), ActBlue, the Tides Foundation, the Open Society Foundations, CAIR, the Qatar Charity, Saudi Aramco, the UNHRC and the UNRWA; but then disband AIPAC.
Or, it’s like letting blue states gerrymander without letting the red states do the same. Gerrymandering is dishonest, since it undermines fair representation of people’s opinions. Yet, if an effective tactic is legal, it risks suicide to spurn the game and not play ball. I think that’s part of why Trump lost in 2020 - he spurned the early voting and mail-in voting games.
The End Times
Sounds like this might be about Daniel 9:27:
And he will strengthen a covenant for the princes for one week, and half the week he will abolish sacrifice and meal-offering, and on high, among abominations, will be the dumb one, and until destruction and extermination befall the dumb one.
I have no idea what that is saying, even in context. I’d have to rely on the commentators, but they are mysterious as well.
Rashi says this is about Titus and the princes of Israel, that through a false peace treaty, he would destroy Israel. Then he would install a false god which does not answer (“the dumb one”) until the days of the king Messiah, and then the false god will be destroyed.
Or maybe you mean Daniel 12:7:
And I heard the man clad in linen, who was above the waters of the river, and he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens, and he swore by the Life of the world, that in the time of times and a half, and when they have ended shattering the strength of the holy people, all these will end.
From the context, Scripture itself calls these matters a secret for the end times. It warns (v.10):
They will be clarified and whitened, and many will be purified, and the wicked will pervert [them], and all the wicked will not understand, but the wise will understand.
Rashi writes, “and the wicked will pervert the calculations by computing them incorrectly, and when they terminate, they will say that there is no more redemption.” This happened many times in our history, like when King Belshatzar miscalculated the end of the Hebrew exile in Daniel 5; or when King Achashveirosh miscalculated the end of the 70 years of exile after the destruction of the First Temple, and thought that now the Jews were handed to him forever (Megillah 11b); or when some of Ephraim sought to leave Egypt 30 years early, trusting in the prowess of their archery rather than in the promise that G.d would remember them (Romemot Keil to Ps: 78:10; Gen. 50:24), and were killed (Rashi to Ps. 78:9; Shemot Rabbah 20:11). “But the wise will understand them when the time of the end arrives.”
Rambam echoes that these are mysteries until the end in Laws of Kings 12:2:
All these and similar matters cannot be definitely known by man until they occur for these matters are undefined in the prophets’ words and even the wise men have no established tradition regarding these matters except their own interpretation of the verses. Therefore, there is a controversy among them regarding these matters.[…]
Similarly, one should not try to determine the appointed time for Mashiach’s coming. Our Sages declared: “May the spirits of those who attempt to determine the time of Mashiach’s coming expire!” Rather, one should await and believe in the general conception of the matter as explained.
According to your command, If Daniel 12 ties “time, times and half” to the shattering of the holy people, and Daniel 9:27 ties the “half-week” to abolishing sacrifice, do you see those as the same pattern described with different words, or different events entirely?
Rambam notes there’s no established tradition on these details, leaving room for interpretation. This perspective changes whether historical events, like those associated with Titus, are seen as full fulfillments or templates for future events.
These attacks today are shameful, thought to know how coordinated or not they are, and it’s not much of a matter, the results will be the same, people getting amped up.
They seem loosely coordinated to me. The NYC bombers were jihadists who met seemingly just for the trip from Pennsylvania; the suicide truck bomber in Michigan was from Lebanon, so probably another jihadist; the shooter at Old Dominion U was a convicted jihadist who finished 8 years of prison for it in '24.
Then there’s the recent antisemitic attacks on synagogues in the Toronto area. I don’t know much about their motives, since my focus is mostly on the US.
But given the sudden spike in not secular leftist attacks, but Islamic attackers, and so soon following the recent fatwas, and in the month of Ramadan, I think they are all responding to their precious Ayatollah biting the dust. They are answering a call to hell.
