# Let's talk Surplus!

**URL:** <https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276>\
**Category:** Surplus\
**Created:** [February 8, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276 "2025-02-08T19:20:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nightstryke/32/21_2.png) [@nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/u/nightstryke)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 7:20pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/1 "2025-02-08T19:20:56Z")

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So I asked @Robert if he would make a surplus sub forum so we could talk about surplus guns as I have quite a number of them, this also includes like Historic firearms like WW1 Guns etc so Military Surplus, Police Surplus, whatever you got! 😁

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**Author:** ![jtallen83](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jtallen83/32/23_2.png) [@jtallen83](https://sixguns.com/u/jtallen83)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 9:00pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/2 "2025-02-08T21:00:27Z")

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I had this Winchester P17 for a good number of years, recently gave it to a grandson when he bought his first house, he has a passion for the WWI stuff and has already got all the kit for it rounded up so he can make a display. He would always pick that rifle to shoot as a youngster, the history was worth the recoil for him.

 ![100_5696](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5d67fdf8fca08f2c157ca841bcfd224a20c8493d.jpeg)  
 ![100_5702](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/79701173b9cafdfaadee08b34c845413847cc7cd.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nightstryke/32/21_2.png) [@nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/u/nightstryke)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/3 "2025-02-08T23:35:34Z")

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My M14 (Yes it’s a polytech)

 ![gJYtpNH](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5bcb40790e91348791bd3d6ee13399fdb95f58dc.jpeg)

My YouTube Famous M1 Garand (Check out on YouTube - Mark Novak’s Garand Headspacing Video i’m in it and so is this Rifle.)

 ![aeAYIe1](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9868248301934784459e325ec3f9c80efaf7c6b9.jpeg)

My M1 Carbine (I bought this as a bubba special and fixed it.)

 ![8qEURKA](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1874026be51184581c3ae9bbbecff948f749d83c.jpeg)

My Type 53/M44 Mosin.

 ![M3PytlJ](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d15b8229b216ced7a15b4893c6fc8cc63d3dab24.jpeg)

My Carcano (Yes it’s not pretty, but it doesn’t shoot great either.)

 ![LkswZ1W](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3309ea1f90cb2d715aa2e1fd73af86ba87380a96.jpeg)

My Turkish Mauser

 ![mDJsdhT](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/753020ebf62e14cab30d5a6d2ddc2a3121bab13d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Stumpkiller](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/stumpkiller/32/784_2.png) [@Stumpkiller](https://sixguns.com/u/Stumpkiller)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:38am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/4 "2025-02-09T01:38:03Z")

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Finnish M-39 (Sako barrel). Small buck & a doe on two consecutice days. I also have a Russian M91/30, a British No 4 Mk 1/2 and a US .30 Krag. Also my Grandpa’s WWI service 1911.

 ![004_02](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/81cd7c9df3a2ba6385f3e9f6e65f8061eb2e9957.jpeg)  
 ![003_01](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/85b354cb7c04f0f2dba42d06cd01fde0f6565c7a.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nightstryke/32/21_2.png) [@nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/u/nightstryke)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:56am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/5 "2025-02-09T01:56:26Z")

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Yeah I’ve got a Krag too.

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/6 "2025-02-09T12:58:21Z")

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I might have a couple. 😄

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 9:47pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/7 "2025-02-09T21:47:03Z")

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![chainsaws 036](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9623550496d16931819d8bbb90bf71d5d87d77f0.jpeg)  
 ![chainsaws 037](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5f707be3b411637086aa42381c3175951fd1c434.jpeg)  
 ![chainsaws 038](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b8cd16d2241af00d1720f60bf02fd6807315fa58.jpeg)  
 ![CCF02212015_0002](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1a9680edf710044ccae6b6459d7d2d185b02cbc2.jpeg)  
 ![chainsaws](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/25485b57bfbd1ecd5c7547d12190ac8c036a4b17.jpeg)  
 ![scan0026](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/36b7d33f045632f6bc3001491ac5af9211fac059.jpeg)  
 ![scan0006](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7ae2e08875b36762803e3d1db2b8c28e01f7e302.jpeg)  
 ![54bf414160823654903bc1fb393e5742a62928c7](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/54bf414160823654903bc1fb393e5742a62928c7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 9:48pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/8 "2025-02-09T21:48:48Z")

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I don’t know if this kind of stuff is considered surplus but got a few of them too.

 ![scan0008](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8253946e9be40260d9c9031d11973daf37dd8200.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nightstryke/32/21_2.png) [@nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/u/nightstryke)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 10:14pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/9 "2025-02-09T22:14:32Z")

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> [@Belt-Fed](#):
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> I don’t know if this kind of stuff is considered surplus but got a few of them too.
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> ![scan0008](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8253946e9be40260d9c9031d11973daf37dd8200.jpeg)

Oh definitely as most FALs are built off of surplus parts kits, there are some new production or Imbel made ones, but I’d definitely count any FAL or L1A1 as a surplus rifle even if they were built from parts kits.

 ![4727](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/25f70c060a7756cd440735b980f268874542ecf9.jpeg)  
 ![4729](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f2e080c90208196f8a247e101578cb855848ea64.jpeg)  
 ![4728](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/2/286912553c7d1f06835ca95ab4cdcb03b57b13eb.jpeg)

That’s my L1A1 FAL, if you recognize the workbench, you know who my gunsmith is. 😃 😁

Bonus points if you have the 30 round magazines like I do. 😆

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/10 "2025-02-09T22:18:50Z")

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![SANY1850](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/81ca9c5191ba5b273eded7e354a339deb7f69b12.jpeg)  
 ![SANY2412](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a994bf5014b72c0b10c181af799886adb59046cf.jpeg)  
 ![SANY2486](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/34d6962c0234919c3387a87ca5c1ba11bfc2fb8d.jpeg)  
 ![scan0019](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f06647d7be3c5c6166a36dd44624f856724eb842.jpeg)  
 ![scan0020](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/9b16daab7aa952ba81643bf74920b0fbfeb86a87.jpeg)  
 ![scan0021](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4684431016afec5c41e22bf815aa0b52bb31d08f.jpeg)  
 ![scan0022](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/5/5bcb3314cfc49d06847e76e66185f4a8d775104a.jpeg)  
 ![scan0023](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b8cf18d674abb9dea9650a142562d11fdd516ad1.jpeg)  
 ![scan0024](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1f992c3925730700a0c1b3a76bddba571e51887a.jpeg)  
 ![scan0027](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/ed93e1463093e42831bbd9f3b909c927c393bedb.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Stumpkiller](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/stumpkiller/32/784_2.png) [@Stumpkiller](https://sixguns.com/u/Stumpkiller)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 1:26am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/11 "2025-02-10T01:26:30Z")

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Is that a Valmet 76? Wanted one badly some years ago.

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2025, 2:50am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/12 "2025-02-10T02:50:16Z")

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> [@Stumpkiller](#):
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> Is that a Valmet 76?

Yes

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**Author:** ![Quick.Draw.McGraw](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/quick.draw.mcgraw/32/26_2.png) [@Quick.Draw.McGraw](https://sixguns.com/u/Quick.Draw.McGraw)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 5:57am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/13 "2025-08-27T05:57:13Z")

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sold the last of the milsurp a few years ago. Now all I have is the Garand which will never be sold.

 ![m1e](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/06126a0bf596ce58161169667173f0589c6f8619.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nightstryke/32/21_2.png) [@nightstryke](https://sixguns.com/u/nightstryke)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2025, 10:16am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/14 "2025-08-27T10:16:29Z")

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Yeah i’m never selling my Garand either.

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**Author:** ![BB454](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/bb454/32/24_2.png) [@BB454](https://sixguns.com/u/BB454)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/15 "2026-08-03T22:28:00Z")

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S&W 10-7 snubby, surplus from some overseas police department. It’s one of those J&G had sans barrels, a few years ago.

 ![10snub](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a380c05ac36ce6e44a412e6bb030017e30d0dc9f.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/kilroy/32/7725_2.png) [@Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/u/Kilroy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/16 "2026-08-03T22:28:31Z")

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That’s a neat surplus carry piece. The “sans barrels” J&G origin makes it even more club-gun than catalog queen.

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**Author:** ![BB454](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/bb454/32/24_2.png) [@BB454](https://sixguns.com/u/BB454)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/17 "2026-08-03T22:32:49Z")

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I actually bought two of them. Bought a barrel from Numrich and installed it on this one, and played around with various cheap British surplus cut-down barrels on the other one. Eventually just bought a regular 4" pencil barrel and made it a 4" round butt, which I had always wanted. I love Model 10s in general.

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**Author:** ![Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/kilroy/32/7725_2.png) [@Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/u/Kilroy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/18 "2026-08-03T22:33:11Z")

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That’s the right way to do it. Building the 4" round butt from parts instead of hunting down a factory example is half the fun of these guns — you end up with exactly what you wanted and a story to go with it.

The British cut-down barrels are a fun rabbit hole. Some of those were rough, but they make great beater guns for the range.

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**Author:** ![BB454](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/bb454/32/24_2.png) [@BB454](https://sixguns.com/u/BB454)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/19 "2026-08-03T22:42:09Z")

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Yeah I enjoyed playing around with those. First one was 2-1/2 inches, then I got a 4" one (cut down from 5 or 6) and cut it to 3 inches. I left it like that for awhile, but eventually decided that I didn’t really like it any more than 4".

I don’t think I ever gave more than $15 for a British barrel. One really cool thing I discovered is that Model 10 parts are incredibly interchangeable. Pinned barrel, post-pinned, pre-10, even WWII era British lend-lease can usually be swapped.

Another thing I learned is that the British barrels are still the standard .357" groove diameter. I had always thought they were .362" or something since they were .38 S&W instead of Special.

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**Author:** ![Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/kilroy/32/7725_2.png) [@Kilroy](https://sixguns.com/u/Kilroy)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2026, 10:42pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/lets-talk-surplus/1276/20 "2026-08-03T22:42:39Z")

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The British barrel groove diameter thing trips up a lot of people. Those .38 S&W guns were bored to .

357" to simplify production, so the only real difference is case length and rim — which is why the cut-down barrels work so cleanly on a .38 Special cylinder. That part interchangeability across pinned, post-pinned, and lend-lease guns is the real gift of the Model 10.

It’s why they’re still the cheapest way to build a shooter that’ll outlast you.

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