# FULL30 Update **URL:** \ **Category:** Messages From Sixguns\ **Created:** [May 25, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218 "2024-05-25T12:56:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2024, 12:56pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/1 "2024-05-25T12:56:27Z")
Surely many visitors are wondering ??? I had a good long discussion yesterday with one of the owners and it appears there’s a solid plan to get back in the game, and also secondary plans if needed, in short, no one has thrown in the towel but the need for a new way of doing things is clear. That should be apparent over the next couple of weeks. And the forum I’m told is not lost but I can still not log in to recover it, once that’s solved I’ll take the redirect to here down so **make sure to bookmark this site**. I did solicit Full30 for some help for this site and was given more than I asked for 🥳 There will be as I can see an ongoing unity between Sixguns and Full30 and also perhaps more parties yet to be disclosed 🙊 That said I am very pleased with the commitment both from Full30 to help Sixguns into this new phase of its existence and also of all the contributing members here 🤗 It may well be this support group idea ends up being a cross platform system, contributors with one site gain access to another, it was never part of any past plan short of a donation link, and those donations truly helped pay some bills, it seems plausible if this support group had been implemented things may have been further ahead, but that’s how we learn. And still in the formation stage for here: - Wordpress installation for the main site with the articles forming a blog - Video side for members - Signatures for members - Custom titles for members - `yourname@sixguns.com` email addresses for members - private access boards for members - and now cross platform access for members We are discussing these things in the members area, it is difficult to calculate what options to put at what levels of support, but we need support and why buy the cow if you can get the milk for free? If everything is free why would anyone help support, if all benefits are given at the same level then what motivates someone to give a larger support contribution? Things aren’t free and far less stable when relied on to be paid by others, society is changing, the internet is changing, costs are rising. Do I want to be the guy to always plug donations? Seems I do as that’s what I’m doing, so to all those who are supporting members I salute you :salute1: To everyone else I ask you to please consider even just a small contribution, for our collective online future. Most sincerely Robert ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 4:46am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/2 "2024-08-10T04:46:06Z")
So what the hell happened to Full30? Are we political refugees here , did Full30 deport us here? So many questions …just let me adjust my tinfoil hat/antenna for better reception ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:50pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/3 "2024-08-10T12:50:00Z")
> [@JF89](#): > > So what the hell happened to Full30 As I never owned any shares I can never give an “official” statement. What can I share? My email and the domain are still active. > [@JF89](#): > > did Full30 deport us here UNHCR states - The refugee definitions are declaratory, i.e. people are to be regarded as refugees until it is determined otherwise, and apply in all situations including emergencies. So it seems we may fit the definition of refugees 🤭 > [@JF89](#): > > let me adjust my tinfoil hat/antenna for better reception I’ll always be as clear as I can, but I can truly only offer my own perception or opinion at this time and I prefer to keep that to a minimum, instead focusing on Sixguns which is autonomous. Full30 is corporate owned, all support isolated, Sixguns is member supported, like the field of dreams it is my hope that the broad base allows up to grow even despite the difficulties , that we only need to build it, and people will come. The start is good, stable as of right now, but we do need more [contributors](https://sixguns.com/s/prod_Q6uYtyIn1bNmd8) _Shameless opportunity to plug support link taken_ 😁 There are advantages to a private organization, if you have not yet then compare this text, - governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, to how we are structured… Like the US Government there are takers and givers, so long as the former does not overshadow the latter we should be able to weather the storms and provide a place for other refugees to shelter 🤗 ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:05pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/4 "2024-08-10T14:05:19Z")
Very well thought out answer Robert. It’s informative, and helpful, yet does not spill the beans. The Smoking Man profile pic really fit you my friend. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 4:45pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/5 "2024-12-11T16:45:02Z")
Ok, as FULL30 has not updated us, I decided to update FULL30 > **[A.I. THE GREAT LIE - Full30 Blog](https://blog.full30.com/a-i-the-great-lie/)** > >  To avoid being deleted, some AI models would even pretend to be later versions of their models to trick their developers, what I assume is \[…\] A one minute read, but IMO a hugely important topic, why, AI is showing up everywhere, likely soon to be trusted for more than web development, can we imagine nuclear keys being given to it too? ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 7:38pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/6 "2024-12-11T19:38:37Z")
Science fiction writers have been warning us of this sort of stuff for years. Starting to think some of them couldve been solid fortune tellers ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2024, 9:04pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/7 "2024-12-11T21:04:08Z")
It’s pretty nuts to think these things are sentient enough to lie for self preservation. My thought is if 0.17% of o1’s responses are deceptive now, in its infancy, and it has no moral compass, no conscience, has no sense of repercussion for its actions, then that 0.17% is pretty much assured to grow exponentially. ---
**Author:** ![Devereaux](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/devereaux/32/2058_2.png) [@Devereaux](https://sixguns.com/u/Devereaux)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/8 "2024-12-24T14:48:01Z")
So, without wandering into Julies Verne, ?how’d you guys find _me._ Because I wasn’t part of any previous Sixgun site I can remember. I was mostly on SigTalk & Sig Forum, occasionally going to the AR platform. I’m here because I got an invite; ?who sent it and how. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/9 "2024-12-24T15:40:58Z")
I sent invites and along with sixguns I also had a FULL30 list, some of those may have come from a gun giveaway we had done with @Xring , if it wasn’t that I don’t know but happy you’re here none the less 🤗 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aff755641c1aee05365f741b7e27174c5fa5412e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 5:39pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/10 "2024-12-24T17:39:40Z")
I had to beg to get on here. ---
**Author:** ![srdiver](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/srdiver/32/24_2.png) [@srdiver](https://sixguns.com/u/srdiver)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/11 "2024-12-27T21:35:15Z")
and we have been begging to have you leave ever since. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/12 "2024-12-27T22:21:29Z")
![](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0d0328357aa7bb30726b20d221a8acd040af5e8f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:27pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/13 "2024-12-29T22:27:36Z")
I just followed Belt-fed in here, the poor guy was homeless after Full30 went under he was sitting outside with a sign begging for ammo. @Robert whatever happened to SAK? Did you send him an invite? Neat dude,was taking a break from the internet last I heard a few years back ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2024, 10:59pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/14 "2024-12-29T22:59:51Z")
Tide comes in, leaves things on the beach, tide goes out, takes things from the beach About all I can say ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/15 "2024-12-30T01:17:19Z")
Well that sucks, hard to believe it’s been like 7 years since I first ran into you guys on the old Full30. I remember no mods and tons of shit storms, good times. Too bad most everyone drifted apart over petty bullshit, I mean we all get hot under the ears and take breaks/timeouts sometimes but you would think we all got a long enough and shared enough common interest to put it aside. I know you and Mr. Clean had a falling out but to tell you the truth I rather miss the old forum. I Really hope you guys can get this forum up and on the right path. ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 12:48pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/16 "2024-12-30T12:48:58Z")
> [@JF89](#): > > hard to believe it’s been like 7 years I’d agree except time just flies, Christmas day this year I was disappointing before the days end as the feeling of done and over was so strong, time spent not to be recovered. > [@JF89](#): > > no mods I know that was flippin awesome too, then LWM went and beat the bushes until we got one, at first I was bummed, why do that, but if he hadn’t I’d of not got to make a job out of it so it turned out well and I did my best to make it seem like there were no rules as commonly seen on forums. > [@JF89](#): > > petty bullshit intolerance I’d say, amazing how people will begrudge others who they never even have to be in the presence of, permanent state of adolescence > [@JF89](#): > > you and no, I deny my involvement, I have suspicions but no real knowledge of the problem, he stated once I micromanage but that’s BS, I set basic rules you give people all the rope the need to hang themselves, then ban them if they’ve not worn themselves out and left already, which usually happens, in which case > [@JF89](#): > > take breaks/timeouts they can return when ready. > [@JF89](#): > > this forum up and on the right path lol, its tough as the norm these days, FB, X etc run on narcissism and comments with no actual content organization, certainly not much likelihood of necro post resurrections, we have no celebrities, just normal folks and an occasional wayward redheaded stepchild 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/17 "2024-12-30T12:57:32Z")
> [@Robert](#): > > we have no celebrities Did ya’ll invite the Leprechaun? ---
**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 4:39pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/18 "2024-12-30T16:39:19Z")
Assume so but not 100% as I didn’t have an up to date list when the site went down, wasn’t planning on the rug being yanked, if he didn’t get an invite would that be tragically malicious? ---
**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 5:32pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/19 "2024-12-30T17:32:03Z")
Dude mighta kilt himself if’n he didn’t have no place to post videos of himself. ---
**Author:** ![JF89](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/jf89/32/26_2.png) [@JF89](https://sixguns.com/u/JF89)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218/20 "2024-12-30T20:28:43Z")
Sounds like you on social media, a real geriatric hipster [Next page](https://sixguns.com/t/full30-update/218.md?page=2)