# Encrypted PM's - Take Notice!

**URL:** <https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732>\
**Category:** Messages From Sixguns\
**Created:** [August 7, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732 "2024-08-07T20:02:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nolomolistari/32/2271_2.png) [@nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/u/nolomolistari)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/21 "2024-09-18T18:16:12Z")

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> [@Robert](#):
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> next time

fuk if it ever gave me words a first time

![devil-possess comp](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8156a57f795e466ff37c1c3734d7d722123a1cb8.gif)

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**Author:** ![nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nolomolistari/32/2271_2.png) [@nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/u/nolomolistari)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/22 "2024-09-18T18:46:43Z")

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OK, NEW FUKERY…so now i try and read 2 encrypted messages and it says this:

The message could not be decrypted because your topic key is invalid.

![fuckery-dept](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8a29f8ec31c1a94899aa06bd1e2f9ca74b7ab872.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 6:49pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/23 "2024-09-18T18:49:14Z")

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Thats all covered somewhere in this thread, essentially if you loose your key any previous PM’s are lost as well, they need a key to read

But… you can PM whoever sent them and ask to be invited back in if you feel they were important.

I’ll check mine and do that with any from you

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**Author:** ![nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nolomolistari/32/2271_2.png) [@nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/u/nolomolistari)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 7:10pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/24 "2024-09-18T19:10:27Z")

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> [@Robert](#):
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> if you feel they were important

now how would i know that?

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**Author:** ![Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/belt-fed/32/21_2.png) [@Belt-Fed](https://sixguns.com/u/Belt-Fed)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 8:07pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/25 "2024-09-18T20:07:40Z")

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> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> i give up…

Yep, i gave up after a couple tries. shouldn’t be that complicated for a PM

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 8:22pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/26 "2024-09-18T20:22:19Z")

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> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> how would i know

That previous PM’s you read were important?

🤫

> [@Belt-Fed](#):
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> shouldn’t be that complicated for a PM

Depends, does P mean personal or private to you?

Because without encryption I 1000% guarantee your messages are not private.

So if what you meant to say was thank you for going to all the trouble to install and teach you how to use private messages you’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nolomolistari/32/2271_2.png) [@nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/u/nolomolistari)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 9:49pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/27 "2024-09-18T21:49:36Z")

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> [@Robert](#):
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> That previous PM’s you read were important?

how would i know? this whole thing was i couldn’t open them to read them

previous PMs were from the system bot

> [@Robert](#):
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> So if what you meant to say was thank you for going to all the trouble to install and teach you how to use private messages you’re welcome.

yes, thanks…but i ain’t done learning until it works

…and sorry for being so persnickety…tech frustrates the crap outta me…last week i got a ‘smart’ phone - and if it dtdn’t cost so much, it’d be at the far end of the range

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/28 "2024-09-18T23:32:02Z")

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> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> from the system bot

Simple fix, type @sonny and follow the prompts, er, wait, I never named this one, did I?  
Type @discobot and follow the prompts, he’s nowhere as cool as Sonny but will give you both a tutorial and an advanced tutorial on how many things work, just not the encryption

> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> i ain’t done learning until it works

_disce ut semper victurus, vive ut cras moriturus_

> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> end of the range

Preaching to the choir, I don’t own a phone,

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**Author:** ![Sam](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/sam/32/3186_2.png) [@Sam](https://sixguns.com/u/Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/29 "2024-09-18T23:32:04Z")

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Hi! To find out what I can do, say `@discobot display help`.

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**Author:** ![equin](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/equin/32/22_2.png) [@equin](https://sixguns.com/u/equin)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 5:27am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/30 "2024-09-21T05:27:13Z")

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Same here. I gave up after a few tries. Never figured out what I’m supposed to do. I think I got a few PMs from Robert and maybe ArmedEyeDoc some time ago, but I could never access them because I’m a tech dummy.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 12:53pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/31 "2024-09-21T12:53:54Z")

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> [@equin](#):
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> I’m a tech dummy

If by tech dummy you mean older guy who likes guns you’re in good company

I’ve made it as easy as I currently can, first I make the notice scream important ,desktop;

 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/11264f913e060652ed62aaa123b30693d558c6cd.png)

mobile;

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/19884053a3b959db3d12ce9a665be21084081763.png)

Then created this thread with instructions on how to start over

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/db22e8c5beaba9d28f74181a71c1aeddd837e5d7.png)

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/45409518de7c0efc6fa1bc5b0b6444ef9988dd66.png)

And also reply as needed

Its not that I don’t understand or am not empathetic, to the contrary, the effort I put into this is for the users here.

I’d love to get into history and other topics

> **[What’s in a Name? Psychological Operations versus Military Information...](https://www.armyupress.army.mil/Journals/Military-Review/Online-Exclusive/2018-OLE/Mar/PSYOP/)**
>
> insights of fifteen years of hard-earned experience in the crucibles of Iraq and Afghanistan we can see our mistakes of the past

> **[ECHELON Program Explained: Global Surveillance Network - Profolus](https://www.profolus.com/topics/echelon-program-global-surveillance-network/)**
>
> The ECHELON Program is a global surveillance network used by UKUSA signatories to intercept and analyse electronic transmissions.  

> **[What the Twitter Files Reveal About Free Speech and Social Media](https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/what-the-twitter-files-reveal-about-free-speech-and-social-media)**
>
> The company’s internal documents were supposed to prove a progressive agenda—mostly, they have exposed the limitations of the platform and its new owner.

> **[Meta Platforms Sued Over ‘Repeated Failure’ to Protect Facebook Accounts Amid...](https://www.classaction.org/news/meta-platforms-sued-over-repeated-failure-to-protect-facebook-accounts-amid-alleged-hacking-problem)**
>
> A class action claims Meta has allowed hackers to hijack non-business Facebook accounts, while the platform denies users a means to regain access to their pages.

> **[Facebook parent Meta will pay $725M to settle user data case](https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-technology-business-social-media-donald-trump-13d01e05b42398fb49aced1a1e8dcc23)**
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> Facebook’s corporate parent has agreed to pay $725 million to settle a lawsuit alleging the world’s largest social media platform allowed millions of its users’ personal information to be fed to Cambridge Analytica.

But it should be obvious what we’re up against even if not fully understood just how bad it truly is:

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e47d140560121c370c62030387f3c2e9318bfe71.jpeg)

 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/b/ba4af3145512d7b4e30315a29e745e4169590cbe.jpeg)

Do we need, or, are you even willing to have a discussion on ███ ██ ███████ █████ ████ █ █████ ███████ ███ ████ ██ █ ████ ██ █████ ██████ ███ ██ ███ █████ ██████████?

Encryption is here on sixguns, how many other platforms offer it at all?

Of the one or two you may be able to think of do they offer it to all users for free?

Telegram, an encrypted messaging service, just had its founder/CEO Pavel Durov arrested, why?

Because encryption is worthless?

Should a firearms community be apathetic to security?

> “Plan for what it is difficult while it is easy, do what is great while it is small.”  
> ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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**Author:** ![equin](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/equin/32/22_2.png) [@equin](https://sixguns.com/u/equin)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/32 "2024-09-21T14:53:35Z")

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Oh, don’t get me wrong. I appreciate all the work you’ve done to ensure our privacy and security. Some of us, though, are too tech challenged to figure out how to use and take advantage of it.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 4:49pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/33 "2024-09-21T16:49:03Z")

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> [@equin](#):
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> don’t get me wrong. I appreciate

Kind words thank you, but empty if my effort doesn’t motivate you to work through and conquer the problem.

What might help everyone is if you were to read through the fix provided, then add your opinion on how the instructions might be simplified, it could be I’ve complicated the issue, that’s where feedback is helpful.

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/6/622daafb53fc8ef20d28aea549cfb6a4c4dbff85.jpeg)

> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> i ain’t done learning until it works

Did you get it learnt?

if so can the process be explained better?

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**Author:** ![nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/nolomolistari/32/2271_2.png) [@nolomolistari](https://sixguns.com/u/nolomolistari)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 5:11pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/34 "2024-09-21T17:11:22Z")

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> [@Robert](#):
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> Did you get it learnt?

nope…i cut&pasted the exact phrase, and get the same result; when my brain rests up, i’ll give a running start, and try again

instructions may lack a step, i have no way of knowing

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/35 "2024-09-21T18:56:30Z")

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> [@nolomolistari](#):
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> i cut&pasted the exact phrase

I created a test account, it still has this warning on the top

 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/a9c33c65d52bceb98839cac9c3c18dadd2013ddb.png)

but when I scroll to the bottom to activate it reads

 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/0/043c4bbe99a46b4e17c21db7aca758f15d9a1bbe.png)

so it is active, but I don’t have the key to use until I hit generate key

in this case I did and it gave

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1eec3b4aac3e7919f3fc31cd94833c23b403ec0d.png)

plus the key to save

# important

then you must hit “save” changes

![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/ad6cf21bf04ca4cf0058754cc3c70963d9742782.png)

* * *

If or when you need it again it will likely be when you try to read a PM, at that point I believe a pop up box prompts you to enter the key.

I’ve only had to do it a couple times, after system updates.

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**Author:** ![ArmedEyeDoc](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/armedeyedoc/32/7805_2.png) [@ArmedEyeDoc](https://sixguns.com/u/ArmedEyeDoc)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/36 "2024-09-21T19:40:48Z")

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Like many, my encryption activated and I did not realize the 12 words was a thing. I was able to follow the instructions to reset the option. It works fine afterwards. I just can’t get the prior message that was sent to me before I did the reset.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 9:55pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/37 "2024-09-21T21:55:37Z")

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Difficulty level 1-10?

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**Author:** ![shooterrex](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/shooterrex/32/50_2.png) [@shooterrex](https://sixguns.com/u/shooterrex)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2024, 10:34pm UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/38 "2024-09-21T22:34:52Z")

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I ðidnt have a problem yet.

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**Author:** ![ArmedEyeDoc](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/armedeyedoc/32/7805_2.png) [@ArmedEyeDoc](https://sixguns.com/u/ArmedEyeDoc)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/39 "2024-09-22T03:03:12Z")

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> [@Robert](#):
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> Difficulty level 1-10?

3, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express…wait! I meant to say that I briefly work computer help desk 25 years ago.

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**Author:** ![Robert](https://sixguns.com/user_avatar/sixguns.com/robert/32/20_2.png) [@Robert](https://sixguns.com/u/Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://sixguns.com/t/encrypted-pms-take-notice/732/40 "2024-09-22T11:39:02Z")

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> [@ArmedEyeDoc](#):
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> 3

ok that sounds reasonable so far thank you

going forward you’ll note encrypted PM’s open in a particular way, takes a moment, and will have this little guy present

 ![image](https://sixguns.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/31d065556b96a2a8f6784d58d89630b849c53a62.png)

All parties need to be encrypted or it simply will not be

When you get an email notification it will only read “A suppressed message was fired your way.” rather than send the message, a log in is required to read.

I tested with our third party transactional email provider and they can not be read, any other email sent though it I can read.

That’s separate from being admin, its literally part of the chain emails go through, that chain can be infinitley long as it travels through the web too, as all emails we send are.

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